Ashes to Ashes

Posted by Darlene Watts on April 25, 2008 at 2:45pm

We are gathered here to pay our last respects to the PP (Paranormal Police). The Zoeller's are no longer part of the PP. I took complete control of it. They will tell you, I stole it. But, you can not steal what was never theirs. They, at no time since July 2007, were owners of the yahoo group and never were owners of the website. They were offered to take responsibility, even recently this month, they refused.

I am putting the PP to sleep and laying it to rest, forever. The reason is, quite frankly, it turned into being something that I sincerely felt was creating a war and tearing the community apart. I feel that it was the wrong approach, no matter what good intentions I or others had.

These are problems I found in doing the paranormal police.

1. Targeting individuals, no matter how well intentioned the group is, only leads to targeting back and basically starts an unending feud.

2. Throwing any name up on a public group or forum, leads to being a target where to many are taking pop shots at this person, instead of really being functional in looking for paranormal fraud. People seem to assume that a name mentioned on the board, is actually someone we were calling a fraud.

3. People that see those that were targeted as friends, come to their defense and widen the scope of arguing and fighting. The board then becomes a mass of confusion and fights. Everyone looks bad when this happens... as the public pays no attention to whom is more right then another.

4. The targeting and insults at people in this manner and what happened, is unprofessional and unproductive and frankly, just plain WRONG.

5. A group of people coming together to pick out who are frauds, looks very high handed, egotistical and is not well recieved.

6. People assume, that all actions of all people within a group, are the responsibility of the owner of such an organization or group. However, controlling the situation that works in such a manner is a kin to trying to stop a train.

7. Everyone becomes under suspicion at some point and it tears apart trust. Lines are made at who is acceptable to speak with and associate with, when no one should truly make that determination, nor, pass judgement on others for whom they are connected to, whether in true friendship or just as aquantances for networking.

8. To many people jump to conclusions. Drawing lines that are very thin, or not there at all to say someone is commiting fraud. Believe me, I've heard some whacked explaination of what some consider proof of fraud.

9. Some people thought it was a good way to rip into someone they were upset with.

10. We accomplished nothing that we set out to do.

I'd like to say here, that I actually was away for a few months and came back to all hell breaking loose in the group. I am shocked at how bad it got. I want no part of a group that is reckless, upsets so many, causes a war of feuding and does absolutely nothing positive for the paranormal community.

I saw both sides while I was away... carefully thinking about whether I wanted to be involved anymore. Especially after finding out the truth to the founder. On both sides have good people. There is not one side better then the other. Both sides had some bad too. Reap is not one of them.

I am here, not to make friends... but, to end a long feud, that I am just tired of fighting and now, feel completely different after taking time off and seeing things in a different light.

Now, no matter which side you stood on... you will have to make your own minds up about me. However, I make up my mind how I feel about people on my own. I will no longer be a party to tearing apart what I was trying to protect in the first place.

So, the Paranormal Police is officially dead and put to bed.

Darlene

Comment by grumpyolefart on April 26, 2008 at 3:22pm: I personally do not know of this group. and I sympathize with you. I am, so far, able, to ensure my own yahoo group has been kept inside a matured adult level. probably by fortune than skill. and as it is,...I am just happy it is staying within guidelines.

garylee

Comment by Darlene Watts on April 26, 2008 at 9:36pm: Well, good for you. I know very few people who have good groups and when they do, I feel it's the members that make it possible. But, without a good person as the owner, it would never be good either. Nice to know you on here Gary Lee.

Comment by Reap Sow on April 29, 2008 at 7:39pm: very good i am glad the fight is over too, at least this one is. I wonder what bobby boy thinks....oh wait I already know let me repost it here since he likes to repost his crap everywhere as if anyone cares...
Bobby Zoeller says

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reapsow rulz

love bobby

Comment by Darlene Watts on April 29, 2008 at 8:24pm: Gee, that's exactly what I read too. Amazing insight. ;-) Ok, I didn't read it. I admit. I just do not care what he has to say. I got something like.. "so full of shit" and you know.. there really wasn't a reason to read more. LOL Ask me if I care.

I'm sure a lot of people out there... can relate to just what I said above and know it is so. It takes no rocket scientist to state the obvious.

I also know, that I really pissed a lot of people off and, I deserved a lot of shit that was dished out to me. BECAUSE, no one in the entire paranormal community is fantasizing about killing and robbing banks and then pointing fingers at someone else for getting some spam and a few things in the mail. (Yes, Bobby did this.) It wasn't Reap that opened my eyes here... it was hearing how some nut thought being a bank robber was a good career choice and then think he had some right to point fingers at others for much less.

I propose that Zoeller get some psychological help. As he sorely needs it.

Comment by anne on April 30, 2008 at 3:09am: Good job Darlene. It's obvious that Zoeller sees you as consorting with the enemy. With that kind of thinking, there's no hope. There are no "enemies" until he makes them an enemy and I believe that's exactly what he loves to do.

Comment by Darlene Watts on April 30, 2008 at 11:09am: I think you are right on that Anne. That is what he exactly likes to do from my stand point also.

Comment by SPRS~SCRS on April 30, 2008 at 1:11pm: as i said before, its about time :)

Comment by Pamela on April 30, 2008 at 9:25pm: Did i read this correctly? ~yes i think i did!
welcome to the real world darlene-so so long overdue......